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Winter 2014 Super Time Trial - Housecleaning

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It's time for a new Time Trial! It's also the first Super competition on the forum! That means it's a bigger competition that couldn't be contained in a single month and participants will be awarded twice as many Chip Cup points as usual! (For a summary of the competition, skip to the end of the post.)

 

Last year I went back and looked at all the levels that had been made for any competitions on these forums.

I compiled them into a single download here: http://cczone.invisionzone.com/index.php?/files/file/305-cc-zone-competition-goodie-bag/

It includes some information on the competitions, but I would like to improve it by including some solutions to at least the time trial levels. However, several of the Time Trials never received any participants and thus there is no official time for those levels. Now I'm giving everyone a chance to revisit those levels before any solutions are released.

 

For January, we're reusing all the levels from months that didn't receive entrants, namely September 2009, January 2010, October 2011, and December 2011. Some of these levels aren't ideal for a Time Trial, so the scoring will be a bit different and won't require participants to optimize all the levels. For every level you complete you get some 'chips' and the participant at the end of February with the most chips wins the competition! The levels in question are all from CCZoneTT.dat (found in the download above), and for January the levels are:

Level 9 - "CCzone TT Challenge #5A" - 10 chips for completion.

Level 10 - "CCzone TT Challenge #5B" - 10-20 chips for completion, see below for details.

Level 12 - "CCzone TT Challenge #7" - 10 chips for completion.

Level 27 - "11.3 - Not Red, Green and Blue" - 10 chips for completion.

Level 29 - "11.5 - December 2011 Time Trial" - 10-20 chips for completion, see below for details.

 

For levels 10 and 29, I will award between 10 and 20 chips for any solutions and use my judgement on how this is done by taking into account the time remaining on the levels. I don't want to force anyone to work too hard on the long block pushing level, so I might award 20 chips to each participant who optimizes that level decently. (Because of possible ties, it is hard to commit to the exact method of distributing chips, but basically I want to award the two quickest solvers equal chips and the rest get lower amounts staggered between 10 and 19 chips.) So the time you get on these levels matter, but there still should be a point where you can feel confident that squeezing another second from the solution won't make a difference.

 

For February, we will add other levels to the mix, so check back for an update then. I will then also explain how the scoring will deal with cases where someone can only participate during one month, and not the other.

 

February Update: The other levels for this competition fall under the theme "were part of a competition but the results were never announced" which basically means a repeat of the five levels from November 2010. You can find them in the same file as the previous levels and the number of chips you'll receive for solving them is:

Level 19 - "#9A: TT Nov 2010 - CODE BREAKER" - 10-20 chips for completion, see below for details.

Level 20 - "#9B: TT Nov 2010 - PORTAL" - 10 chips for completion.

Level 21 - "#9C: TT Nov 2010 - DIAMOND" - 5 chips for completion, and an additional 5 chips for tying with the best time.

Level 22 - "#9D: TT Nov 2010 - RANDOM" - 10 chips for completion.

Level 23 - "#9E: TT Nov 2010 - DIRECTIONAL" - 10-20 chips for completion, see below for details.

 
For the first and last of these levels, the person who submits the best time on each will receive 20 chips. The  second best scorer will get 19 chips, third will get 18 chips and so on down to 10 chips. (If it makes no difference in the result, I might round these steps to two or five chips each.) I will be interested in seeing who scores the best times on the other levels too, but I can't make those matter for the competition, as it would be too much work for you guys. I will also try my hand at what scores I can get.
 
Remember that the person with the most chips at after all these ten levels wins! I can't reveal how many participants we already had in January, but if you feel like it is too late to join in you would be wrong! Even with half points available from the first levels you can still place pretty high and start off the year with a big pile of Chip Cup points. It's even possible that some participants will drop out this month and someone else entirely will come and claim first place!

 

Other notes:

1) The person with the most chips after all levels from January and February wins!
 
2) As not all levels are playable in Lynx, this time you may enter the competition only in MS. You can send in your Lynx solutions as well, but those won't count towards the competition. You do not need to solve all levels to enter. There may be a tie in overall score.
 
3) You may use the levels in either CCZoneTT.dat or the original smaller sets as released (they should be identical). Please send your solutions (either the tws file or avis) to CCZoneNextLevel at gmail dot com, or to my own email valeosote at hotmail dot com. Do not post your solutions or solution times or share them with others. All times will be published at the same time, and the quickest solutions will eventually be released. I will strive to respond to your message by a confirmation that your score has been recorded.
 
4) This is part of the 2014 season of the Chip Cup. The winner will be awarded 30 points, second place 24, third 20 points, and so on according to twice as much points as for normal competitions. If you win a competition here for the first time, you receive the "You're Winner!" award. All participants who haven't participated in a time trial earlier receive the "Run, Chip, Run" award. If your username starts with a K, I will create and dedicate a level to you.

5) Submission deadline is at the end of January where you live for the first five levels, and the end of February for the rest of the levels. Results will be announced in March. More exact deadlines will be posted, but get your solutions in early rather than later! You can send in improvements while the deadline hasn't passed, so there is no downside to sending in something you know might not be your best effort if you had forever to work on it.
 
6) Now that it is February, you may still enter the competition, but if you did not submit anything in January, you will only receive half points for those levels.
 
Summary of competition:
  • Download and extract CCZoneTT.dat from: http://cczone.invisionzone.com/index.php?/files/download/305-cc-zone-competition-goodie-bag/
  • Try getting a good time on levels #10 and #29.
  • Attempt solving levels #9, #12, and #27.
  • Make a silent wish that you already would have done all that in January.
  • Then try getting a good time on levels #19 and #23.
  • Also attempt solving levels #20, #21, and #22.
  • Send in your solutions to CCZoneNextLevel at gmail dot com or valeosote at hotmail dot com.
  • Check back in March for the results!
Report any problems or ask any questions here! Enjoy!  :blob: 
 

-Miika

Edited by M11k4
added February levels and info

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Something I forgot to mention...

 

Usually I allow for some time to give feedback on the levels and we might change slightly if there are issues like busts. This time I don't want to go back and make changes to the levels, as they are already established parts of our history, but I am totally up for changing or clarifying the scoring methods. Suggestions and comments in this direction are welcome! If you have any issue with the competition, it's better to speak up now than after the deadlines.

 

I thought I had something else to say too, but it slipped my mind again :D

 

-Miika

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Are we allowed more time to improve our times on the "January" levels during February?

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Are we allowed more time to improve our times on the "January" levels during February?

Yes.

 

I was actually coming here to announce some stuff regarding this. You will still be able to report times for these first levels in February, but if you did not send in any submissions in January, your score for the first levels will be halved. You might get away with informing me of an intent to participate, but that is stretching your luck. Basically, send in your solutions now, and then you will have less to worry about next month, but if you do have more time then you can still take part in the fun!

 

More info on the levels for February to come... when it actually is February.

 

-Miika

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...And it's February! I have added the info in the first post on which levels to play for February. Maybe some of you already guessed what they may have been, as they all came from the same set as January's levels.

 

Now I have to confess a secret agenda I had in running this competition and choosing these levels to use. I want to post a high score table for all the Time Trial levels that have been used over the years, and to do that I needed some base scores for all the levels. This means I wanted to use the levels from months that had not received any entries, as well as the one month when the results weren't announced because the person running the competition left the community. Hopefully you guys agree that this will be a fun goal to reach!

 

Which actually brings up an odd point: even after using ten levels for the competition, I'm still left with two levels for which I do not have any solution times. These two are levels 14 (Mechanisms) and 17 (Time Limit), both of which are not solvable in Tile World and were used in the October 2010 Time Trial. If someone wants to solve these in MSCC and report a time, that would be great! An avi would be even better! But let's first concentrate on the levels that are actually in the competition this month :)

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This may seem strange, given that this is technically my "first" post here, but as the original creator of both Mechanisms and Time Limit (as well as most of the other time trial levels for this competition), I do have solutions for both of those levels, if you wanted them. It's nice to know my old levels are being reused once more. :)

 

And for anyone else wondering, yes, I am "Sugarhue123" from the old forums. It's been a long time since.

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Hi SugarHue123!! Or should I say studioKiller or even dittoditto101? :)

 

Nice to see you back! If you send me the solutions to those two levels, that would be great! Technically you can also enter the actual competition on the other levels if you have your own solutions for those too. Do you still have the submissions for November 2010? I know what times I sent in, but have no way of knowing if others also participated. Do you remember if anyone else did send you something back then?

 

Thanks for letting us use your levels again :) Hope you hand around for some time again. :blob:

 

-Miika

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Any name's fine! Unfortunately, I don't have any of the information from any of the old time trial competitions, so I don't remember whether anyone else participated, sorry. I'll send you AVIs of the two levels as soon as possible, and I'll try my hand at the competiton levels again :D

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Hey guys! It's the end of February now! I hope to still see some more submissions from people, so I'm extending the deadline to Monday morning at 6 a.m. March 3rd where you live to give everyone the chance to still play the levels over the weekend. There are still some good Chip Cup points here to be earned with relatively little effort because it is a Super Competition with double the usual amount of points and every level solved will count!

 

I'm sorry I haven't quite been on my game recently with the other competitions. I'll soon post the results to all the competitions so far this year, and then we'll have new ones for March started within a few days. These might be the last ones before everyone will be enthralled by CCLP1 in April. I'm so excited for that!!

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Sadly, I may not be able to work on the February levels during the time I allotted to spend on them tonight due to a power outage.

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Sadly, I may not be able to work on the February levels during the time I allotted to spend on them tonight due to a power outage.

:facepalm:  I'll try to see if this was a deliberate attack by some of the other competitors. :plankton:

 

EDIT: nope, it just seems the universe is trying to tell me that this competition was doomed from the start.

Edited by M11k4

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Ok, so here's the deal. JB, you were the only one to submit ANYTHING to this time trial during the two months allocated, and even you only managed to submit for the first half of the competition. I know some people had solutions to some of the levels, but for some reason nobody submitted them. I'm thus contemplating on cutting the Chip Cup points down to the normal amount and on counting my own times as a submission to have at least some sort of competition here. (I do not remember your scores though I checked that the tws you sent worked, and I never watched your solutions.) I admit it might be a bit controversial to allow my own submission as I am also the person running this thing (though it has precedent in the create competitions), so I propose you choose if you want to take me on. If you accept my submission to all the levels in question and with the scoring system proposed (practically meaning we need to solve all ten levels but only the times on levels 11.5 , 9A and 9E will determine the standings), I think it would only be fair to give you an extra week till Sunday midnight in your time zone to play the February levels as well as review your January solution(s). I'm sure we can find a third party to act as judge, and I don't feel I would have an advantage from any foreknowledge of the levels as they have been public for long enough (though I would use my own work on the Nov 2010 levels from back when it was current). Do you think that sounds like something that would work?

 

If JB takes the bait, and someone else would still like to get in on the action, that might be worked out too. In any case I will be announcing the time trial for March within a few days.

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I submitted a tws file back in January and again in February!! I must say I really made an effort on these. The email was sent to CCZONE Submissions <cczonenextlevel@gmail.com> on Feb. 26. I guess you didn't get it. Bummer!

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Sorry Syzygy for not checking that email on time. I now do see your submissions. Without any extension on the deadline, this would mean you would win the competition. I'll see if I can come up with a fair suggestion for all parties on how to proceed, and I'll edit that into this post later today. :D

 

EDIT:

 

I have now sent in my own scores to a secure location for storage so I was able to look at the other times submitted. Unlike I assumed, if I scored the competition now with all the submissions before the real deadline, it is not a given that Syzygy would win. J.B. has solved five of the ten levels, and Syzygy has solved six, with J.B. having some faster times. Syzygy also sent in several solutions to other levels in the set, so I am not entirely sure if I was clear enough on which levels exactly were used in the competition. Apologies for this, and for royally messing up and missing your submissions in the first place.

 

I think it's fair to allow Syzygy a say in whether or not the extension is fair. Feel free to not allow it, in which case we'll just use the submitted times and maybe for fun report what times we scored during this week. If you allow the extension for J.B., I will deduct 35 chips from his February score, which is half the maximum possible for the month. If you solve more levels yourself, I wouldn't penalize you because you already worked on extra levels. This means that if you go back and solve three of the remaining four levels you would most likely win in any case. If you solved two more, but J.B. submitted perfect scores on all the levels, he would probably win. To me this feels like a balance leading to a competition that would be exciting to follow. Additionally, you could allow me to enter my scores as well, and I would also procure a penalty of 35 chips, allowing a battle between J.B. and me regardless of where you end up. If others send in solutions, they will also be charged severely for not being on time, but it might be worth it for them because of the large number of Chip Cup points being awarded. Of course this all depends on if you still wish to work on these levels this week. How does this sound? :)

 

Does someone else know about Linux and tws files?

Edited by M11k4
needed to think

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An extension sounds fine, with deductions or not. I might try to solve more as I didn't have time to enter the create comp last month - January that is - (we had 2 floods, basement was soaked - lotta work cleaning up).

I would think the tws files in Linux are located in the 'save' directory, same as in Windows.

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Results time!! The competition and all extended deadlines are now over.

 

We had four entrants. The end result kind of depends on how I give out penalties for being late, but if you look at the end results I think this is as fair as I could make it this time considering what was submitted. The chips being awarded for levels are used to determine the standings in this competition without adding up the exact times on the levels. There were a total of ten levels to play, half of which cared about the completion time. The winner of the competition was decided by the time difference on a single level.

 

Here are the submitted solution times (refer to full names of levels in the first post):

name - jblewis - M11k4 - Syzygy - chipster1059

 5A  - (193)     (193)   (146)     --- 
 5B  -  145       159      24      ---
 7   - (306)     (291)    ---      ---
11.3 - (158)     (133)    (87)     ---
11.5 -   567      569     516      ---
 9A  -  460       455     ---      423
 9B  - (197)     (192)    ---      ---
 9C  -   81        81      64       81
 9D  - (860)     (874)    ---      ---
 9E  -  830       828     676      ---
 
Which result in these amounts of chips awarded (refer to some details in previous posts):

name - jblewis - M11k4 - Syzygy - chipster1059

 5A  -   10        10      10 
 5B  -   20        20      15
 7   -   10        10
11.3 -   10        10      10
11.5 -   18        20      16
 9A  -   20        18               16
 9B  -   10        10
 9C  -   10        10       5       10
 9D  -   10        10
 9E  -   20        18      16
late -  -35       -35      -0      -50%
total:  103       101      72       13

 

Congratulations to J.B.! You have one the first Super Competition! Had we tied on level 9A, the competition would have been a tie as well so I'd say it was pretty close. Both Syzygy and chipster1059 were first time entrants to a time trial, so you also get the forum award for participating. Great job all of you!

 

Thanks for you guys also for letting me submit my solutions. I didn't have much time to improve my times on the second set of levels, but at least I got to finally report what times I got on those levels way back when they first were used over three years ago. The quickest solutions on all the levels will be recorded and posted for examination. I'm sorry I couldn't do that already, but maybe later this month; at least you got the results already and didn't have to wait too long for them :)

 

See you again next time!

 

-Miika

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